It's an analogy I've heard in many capacities. If you put a frog in a pan of boiling water, he'll jump right out. If you set the frog in a pan of water and turn the heat up gradually he'll cook because he doesn't sense the danger. (Has the ASPCA heard of the people who found this out?)
Lately I've been watching more tv than is healthy. We're inundated with adult shows dealing with many controversial issues. Two especially noticeable have been homosexuality and euthanasia. But I find it quite interesting HOW these issues are presented.
Firstly, Lesbianism seems almost ignored on television now. I think perhaps the opinion is lesbianism will be more socially "acceptable" because it is less "invasive" than male homosexuality. Secondly, gay men are nearly always portrayed as fun and funny; the life of the party: or they are portrayed as stable, serious men in a comitted, monogamous relationship who would be "perfect" parents. No attempt is made to show an accurate account of the homosexual lifestyle; the rampant promiscuity, the accompanying psychological problems, the increasing physical risks....
Euthanasia is presented almost exclusively as a loving choice done at the request of the ill or injured victim. I love you so much I don't want you to live with me like this and you love me so much you'll kill me if I ask you to (?!) In the shows it's done by a loving family member or friend. No mention is made of the emotional scars on the remaning family who weren't involved in the "choice". Nothing is said about the probability that eventually it will be doctors & insurance companies deciding who will die rather than family. Not once is the word "murder" used.
In both of these cases the television audiences are expected to become inured to SIN. For the most part, our public school system is not teaching people to think for themselves. A society getting its ideas from increasingly liberal programming will eventually accept without question that agenda. In other words, our culture is cooking some frogs. By the time our children are lawmakers the hope of those extremists is that they'll have been in hot water so long they won't recognize it and will vote accordingly so that anything goes. Except , of course, religion. We will not be able to tolerate such intolerance.
Posted by lisa at October 2, 2003 11:24 AMGreetings!
I am against euthenasia, so I have no comment on your observations regarding this.
Why are we Catholics so anti-homosexuals though....?
We aren't fundamentalists, and there are less Biblical passages referring to homosexual acts than supporting slavery. Furthermore, these verses are more vague in context than they appear out of context. See my Thoughts on Homosexuality for a detailed exegesis of the Scriptures on this subject, and a look at canon law and the tradition as well.
I'm sitting here surfing through Catholic blogs, and yours is the tenth one with an anti-gay message within the 1st 2 or 3 posts.
Why?
Are we really thinking about the issue, reflecting it carefully from a theological point of view, and praying about it before posting?
Or are we simply proof-texting to justify our feelings of "ickiness".
I'm straight, and I feel "icked out" imagining my parents together. But they certainly committed no sin in concieving me.
Sorry if I'm coming on strong here, and you haven't posted for a few days....like I say, yours is about the tenth post I ran across...
Peace and blessings!
jcecil3
Ooops, the link to my article did not work in a comments box.
Try http://gaycatholic.blogspot.com/
Posted by: jcecil3 at October 14, 2003 05:35 PMI wanted to respond to jcecil3's comments.
Neither Lisa nor I am anti-homosexual-people. In fact, one of my dearest friends in this world is a homosexual man. Having known several homosexuals, I can attest to Lisa's comments about the rampant promiscuity, psychological problems, etc.
I love my homosexual friends, but I hate their actions and their lifestyle. One of the wonderful things about scripture is that we don't have to pray about what is sinful and not, in most cases, since it is clearly outlined in scripture. The Bible makes it clear that homosexual acts are sinful and immoral. Today's pop culture in America, 2003, directly contradicts this. It is en vogue to "come out" in some metro areas, like New York. And we as a country are glorifying this in the names of diversity and tolerance. Tolerance of sin is a direct violation of our directive to admonish the sinner.
Posted by: Kari at October 31, 2003 10:32 AMI agree TOTALLY about "the rampant promiscuity, the accompanying psychological problems, the increasing physical risks...." High school is a dangerous place for heterosexuals kids!! and college is even worse!!! I know, I've been there! Let's not even talk about MTV and late night dating shows. (Guily pleasure, I know. I admit I watch them.) Most of the gays I know are prudes by comparison with the sorrority girls I've seen. And don't even get me started on the ones who went to all-girls Catholic schools. So much pent up passion. It's really a lovely thing. I mean on their wedding nights, of course ;)
"Really, I'm not anti-gay. I love my homosexual friends. Some of my best friends are gay. I just happen to hate everything they do--in the privacy of their own homes, for Heaven's sake!! It's almost as bad as blacks and Jews going bowling!" C'mon. Admit it to yourself: you're a bigot. You haven't really come to understand compassion, or forgiveness . . . or love for your fellow man. Anyone who doesn't share your beliefs is pushing an agenda you can't tolerate. Welcome to the 15th century. Hello Sun going 'round the Earth.
I love my Catholic friends, really! But I'm offended by their ham and shellfish eating, their wearing clothes made from two different kinds of cloth, their failure to observe the Sabbath on Saturday, their graven images and idolatry, their opposition to the circumcision, their outright failure to let their fields go fallow every seventh year, and their belief that the laws God gave to man don't apply to them. I've read the Bible. I would guess that most of them have just skimmed it for the anti-gay parts.
Posted by: M. Katz at November 24, 2003 11:27 PMHmm.. previous commenter seems to be of the type who thinks the sin of Soddom and Gomorrah was not being welcoming enough to visitors.
This is so hilarious. The Bible provides ample proof in the Old and New Testaments alike that God frowns upon homosexuality as well as all fornication. Try Romans 1 for the New Testament evidence.
Oh wait, this is futile. You quite obviously are concerned neither with an accurate interpretation of Scripture, nor with the constant, 2000 year teaching of the Church. Rather than dealing with what the Bible actually says and what the Church actually teaches about homosexuality, the Sabbath, circumcision, etc., you are poking holes in an elementary-school-level vision of Catholicism. This vision serves your argument quite well, but as it is a false vision, it is completely irrelevant.
"Anyone who doesn't share your beliefs is pushing an agenda you can't tolerate. Welcome to the 15th century."
The irony is so obvious. Yet you're serious! Obviously, you cannot tolerate our agenda because you don't share our beliefs. Gosh, you're such a bigot! Here we are practicing our faith and you come here and insult us! Where's your compassion for your fellow man? Hello 19th century American anti-Catholicism!
Posted by: Chris at December 15, 2003 05:04 PMI have become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
Posted by: Berglin Deb at March 16, 2004 12:40 AMI've been brought up Catholic and believe in the God and the teachings of Jesus...yet (shock horror!)my family and I believe that there's nothing wrong at all with homosexuality - it's a natural way for certain people to express their love and I certainly don't feel the least repelled by it. From what I can gather, the basic principle of Jesus's teaching was liberal and forward-thinking and based on peace and love - regardless of what you were like or your sexual orientation. Has anyone taken into consideration that the Bible was written by people who interpretated Jesus's teachings their OWN way - and their beliefs are thousands of years old and based on their own right-wing, suspicious, xenophobic philosphies? I honestly don't understand why people are so afraid and angered by homosexuality - it doesn't affect anyone except the gays involved and they don't seem to be unhappy. :)
Posted by: Philippa at March 23, 2004 02:47 PMPhilippa,
You said you were brought up Catholic and believe the teachings of Jesus. If that's the case, you would have to accept the infallibility of the Pope and the truth of the magesterium. I recommend reading Scott Hahn's explaination of how the authority of the Pope and the magesterium is backed up by Jesus' teaching in the Bible. The writers of the Bible did not interpret Christ's teaching their own way; They were guided by the Holy Spirit.
As for homeosexuality, it does not just involve the gay people in question. Did the Fall of Adam and Eve only involve Adam and Eve? Sin affects everyone because whether you like it or not, man was created to be a social being.
Happiness has nothing to do with it either. We were not created for this world alone. Otherwise, death wouldn't exist. We were not created to live simply for ourselves. Rather, we are called to love God by following his commandments and loving his people. I could go out and live a "happily" promiscuous life, but I would not be justified in doing so based on any pleasure involved.
Homosexual acts are a crime against sexuality. The Catholic Church teaches that sex has two aims in mind: unity and procreation. A gay couple cannot procreate naturally, which in itself should be a sign that it is wrong. Homosexual acts, like sex outside of marriage, is sinful because it is based on lust.
Philippa,
You said you were brought up Catholic and believe the teachings of Jesus. If that's the case, you would have to accept the infallibility of the Pope and the truth of the magesterium. I recommend reading Scott Hahn's explaination of how the authority of the Pope and the magesterium is backed up by Jesus' teaching in the Bible. The writers of the Bible did not interpret Christ's teaching their own way; They were guided by the Holy Spirit.
As for homeosexuality, it does not just involve the gay people in question. Did the Fall of Adam and Eve only involve Adam and Eve? Sin affects everyone because whether you like it or not, man was created to be a social being.
Happiness has nothing to do with it either. We were not created for this world alone. Otherwise, death wouldn't exist. We were not created to live simply for ourselves. Rather, we are called to love God by following his commandments and loving his people. I could go out and live a "happily" promiscuous life, but I would not be justified in doing so based on any pleasure involved.
Homosexual acts are a crime against sexuality. The Catholic Church teaches that sex has two aims in mind: unity and procreation. A gay couple cannot procreate naturally, which in itself should be a sign that it is wrong. Homosexual acts, like sex outside of marriage, is sinful because it is based on lust.
Philippa,
You said you were brought up Catholic and believe the teachings of Jesus. If that's the case, you would have to accept the infallibility of the Pope and the truth of the magesterium. I recommend reading Scott Hahn's explaination of how the authority of the Pope and the magesterium is backed up by Jesus' teaching in the Bible. The writers of the Bible did not interpret Christ's teaching their own way; They were guided by the Holy Spirit.
As for homeosexuality, it does not just involve the gay people in question. Did the Fall of Adam and Eve only involve Adam and Eve? Sin affects everyone because whether you like it or not, man was created to be a social being.
Happiness has nothing to do with it either. We were not created for this world alone. Otherwise, death wouldn't exist. We were not created to live simply for ourselves. Rather, we are called to love God by following his commandments and loving his people. I could go out and live a "happily" promiscuous life, but I would not be justified in doing so based on any pleasure involved.
Homosexual acts are a crime against sexuality. The Catholic Church teaches that sex has two aims in mind: unity and procreation. A gay couple cannot procreate naturally, which in itself should be a sign that it is wrong. Homosexual acts, like sex outside of marriage, is sinful because it is based on lust.
Philippa,
You said you were brought up Catholic and believe the teachings of Jesus. If that's the case, you would have to accept the infallibility of the Pope and the truth of the magesterium. I recommend reading Scott Hahn's explaination of how the authority of the Pope and the magesterium is backed up by Jesus' teaching in the Bible. The writers of the Bible did not interpret Christ's teaching their own way; They were guided by the Holy Spirit.
As for homeosexuality, it does not just involve the gay people in question. Did the Fall of Adam and Eve only involve Adam and Eve? Sin affects everyone because whether you like it or not, man was created to be a social being.
Happiness has nothing to do with it either. We were not created for this world alone. Otherwise, death wouldn't exist. We were not created to live simply for ourselves. Rather, we are called to love God by following his commandments and loving his people. I could go out and live a "happily" promiscuous life, but I would not be justified in doing so based on any pleasure involved.
Homosexual acts are a crime against sexuality. The Catholic Church teaches that sex has two aims in mind: unity and procreation. A gay couple cannot procreate naturally, which in itself should be a sign that it is wrong. Homosexual acts, like sex outside of marriage, is sinful because it is based on lust.
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